Posted by: ianclary | February 25, 2008

Pastor as Businessman

There’s a sad irony here that I’m borderline ashamed of. Keith was the guy who kindly asked me to join City of God and one of the first things that I posted on here was a slight challenge to one of his thoughts. Now I’m doing it again. I apologise in advance Keith!!!

In his earlier post called Fast Company to Hell, Keith was rightly upset with pastors who uncritically absorb “secular” business models in their philosophy of ministry. My problem is definitely not with his general criticism - as Piper rightly said, brothers we are not professionals. My problem is, however, with Keith’s use of the absolute word “any.” It made me ask myself: “Is it true that there isn’t any relationship between pastoring and the business world?” I think that there is and I believe that I could muster up a list that shows relations between the two.

Take leadership for example. Both good pastors and good businessmen need to be good leaders. That’s hopefully an undisputed given. Neither church or business would last if their leaders weren’t…well…leaders.

How about stewardship? Should a pastor and a businessman be well-ordered when it comes to time and finances in their respective callings?

Risk taking - here’s one we don’t often think of in regard to pastoral ministry. Yet both pastors and businessman need to take godly risks to ensure that the vision of their church or business stay on the mission its been called by God to do. If a pastor doesn’t take risks, there will be no church discipline, no sacrifice, no hard sermons, etc.

I actually think that most of the key qualities of pastoral ministry that I learned about in pastoral theology (for more, scroll through my prof’s blog) could be applied to the business world. I know that I’m likely straining at a gnat here, but I believe that it’s necessary to counter the imbalance that we Reformed folk often wind up with. As Keith rightly said, we should not seek to model our pastoring on the business world, but at the same time we cannot deny useful parallels. Surely Bill Hybels and co., are out to lunch in their philosophies of ministry. But is it absolutely (as indicated by the word “any”) wrong to make use of the good and godly things of the business world for the well-being of the local church? Of course, critical thinking with Bible in hand is necessary to think this through.

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It’s interesting that you cite leadership, wise use of resources, and risk taking as common elements of business and ministry. I could point out that they are also keys to success in organized crime and terrorist cells.

I say this not to be a jerk (well not solely to be a jerk) but to point out that there are certain things that are key to running any organization well. I suppose you *could* borrow ideas that you got reading the biography of Al Capone or something, but I suspect you’d treat that information with much more suspicion.

Maybe, maybe not. A good idea is a good idea. Of course your comparison between Capone and ministry and the comparison between business and ministry are qualitatively different. Your average Bay Street cronie doesn’t run guns, prostitutes and drugs - well, hopefully not.
You take my point at least in agreeing that the word “any” wasn’t the best choice. I don’t think that there really is a disagreement here. As I said, I’m probably straining at a gnat. But I think that at times we can react so hard to one view that we become imbalanced in another. It just struck me that Keith was railing against any encroachment of the business world into ministry - and my point is to say that such encroachments have to be tested biblically and if they pass that test, they should stand.
So, if there was a possibility that Capone did something that could be evaluated and passed biblically, then yes, by all means, lets use it. Somehow, I don’t think we’ll find much!

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